Look at the security patch which came from the M$ Corporation

[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

In news:***@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl,
Ray at <%=sLocation%> <%=sLocation%> posted their thoughts, then I offered
mine

The message below this contains a virus. Do not open the attachment.
See here for more details.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/policy/swdist.asp
Ray at home

Depicting Microsoft with the dollar sign ($) is DEROGATORY, for the company
and the employees that work there. These guys are trying to help you out
when you post in these groups, but to turn around and deface the name in
this matter is just throwing it back in their faces.

After all, I bet your job or career AND basically your livelyhood has
something to do with Microsoft products.
--
Regards,
Ace

Please direct all replies to the newsgroup so all can benefit.

Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory

[Jay]

wow, one of those MS hardcore types i hear about. i thought you were just an
urban legend
"Ace Fekay [MVP]"

Post by Ace Fekay [MVP]
Ray at <%=sLocation%> <%=sLocation%> posted their thoughts, then I offered
mine

The message below this contains a virus. Do not open the attachment.
See here for more details.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/policy/swdist.asp
Ray at home

Depicting Microsoft with the dollar sign ($) is DEROGATORY, for the company
and the employees that work there. These guys are trying to help you out
when you post in these groups, but to turn around and deface the name in
this matter is just throwing it back in their faces.
After all, I bet your job or career AND basically your livelyhood has
something to do with Microsoft products.
--
Regards,
Ace
Please direct all replies to the newsgroup so all can benefit.
Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory
--
=================================

[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

Post by Jay
wow, one of those MS hardcore types i hear about. i thought you were just an
urban legend

No, not a legend or an MS employee, but just thought I would jump in there
for them.

I guess you believe otherwise?

Ace

[Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP]]

Ace,

Ray explained why he posts in the past with the same subjects as spam
messages. It's to put them on the bottom, he means no harm by it, but I
personally don't like it because it involves scrolling all the way down to
the bottom to look at the latest spam.

Ray - I recommend and plead that you stop doing it. Aside from giving
yourself a bad name, it also bothers people (that is, I'm sure it's not just
me)
--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.imbored.biz - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
tutorial site :-)
Only reply by newsgroup. If I see an email I didn't ask for, it will be
deleted without reading.


"Ace Fekay [MVP]"

Post by Ace Fekay [MVP]
Ray at <%=sLocation%> <%=sLocation%> posted their thoughts, then I offered
mine

The message below this contains a virus. Do not open the attachment.
See here for more details.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/policy/swdist.asp
Ray at home

Depicting Microsoft with the dollar sign ($) is DEROGATORY, for the company
and the employees that work there. These guys are trying to help you out
when you post in these groups, but to turn around and deface the name in
this matter is just throwing it back in their faces.
After all, I bet your job or career AND basically your livelyhood has
something to do with Microsoft products.
--
Regards,
Ace
Please direct all replies to the newsgroup so all can benefit.
Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory
--
=================================

[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

I understand and read his previous posts on how he does this, which is a
good thing. I just don't agree to the insignia. Just thought I would jump in
for them, knowing how MS employees don't like that.

I'm not an MS employee, but I my career is based on certain guidelines I
have to follow from Microsoft.

Ace

Post by Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP]
Ace,
Ray explained why he posts in the past with the same subjects as spam
messages. It's to put them on the bottom, he means no harm by it, but I
personally don't like it because it involves scrolling all the way down to
the bottom to look at the latest spam.
Ray - I recommend and plead that you stop doing it. Aside from giving
yourself a bad name, it also bothers people (that is, I'm sure it's not just
me)
--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.imbored.biz - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
tutorial site :-)
Only reply by newsgroup. If I see an email I didn't ask for, it will be
deleted without reading.
"Ace Fekay [MVP]"

Post by Ace Fekay [MVP]
Ray at <%=sLocation%> <%=sLocation%> posted their thoughts, then I offered
mine

The message below this contains a virus. Do not open the attachment.
See here for more details.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/policy/swdist.asp
Ray at home

Depicting Microsoft with the dollar sign ($) is DEROGATORY, for the

company

Post by Ace Fekay [MVP]
and the employees that work there. These guys are trying to help you out
when you post in these groups, but to turn around and deface the name in
this matter is just throwing it back in their faces.
After all, I bet your job or career AND basically your livelyhood has
something to do with Microsoft products.
--
Regards,
Ace
Please direct all replies to the newsgroup so all can benefit.
Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory
--
=================================

[Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP]]

I know you're not a Microsoft employee, I'm an MVP too, remember? ;-)
--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.imbored.biz - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
tutorial site :-)
Only reply by newsgroup. If I see an email I didn't ask for, it will be
deleted without reading.


"Ace Fekay [MVP]"

Post by Ace Fekay [MVP]
I understand and read his previous posts on how he does this, which is a
good thing. I just don't agree to the insignia. Just thought I would jump in
for them, knowing how MS employees don't like that.
I'm not an MS employee, but I my career is based on certain guidelines I
have to follow from Microsoft.
Ace

Post by Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP]
Ace,
Ray explained why he posts in the past with the same subjects as spam
messages. It's to put them on the bottom, he means no harm by it, but I
personally don't like it because it involves scrolling all the way down to
the bottom to look at the latest spam.
Ray - I recommend and plead that you stop doing it. Aside from giving
yourself a bad name, it also bothers people (that is, I'm sure it's not

just

Post by Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP]
me)
--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.imbored.biz - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
tutorial site :-)
Only reply by newsgroup. If I see an email I didn't ask for, it will be
deleted without reading.
"Ace Fekay [MVP]"

Post by Ace Fekay [MVP]
Ray at <%=sLocation%> <%=sLocation%> posted their thoughts, then I

offered

Post by Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP]

Post by Ace Fekay [MVP]
mine

The message below this contains a virus. Do not open the attachment.
See here for more details.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/policy/swdist.asp
Ray at home

Depicting Microsoft with the dollar sign ($) is DEROGATORY, for the

company

Post by Ace Fekay [MVP]
and the employees that work there. These guys are trying to help you out
when you post in these groups, but to turn around and deface the name in
this matter is just throwing it back in their faces.
After all, I bet your job or career AND basically your livelyhood has
something to do with Microsoft products.
--
Regards,
Ace
Please direct all replies to the newsgroup so all can benefit.
Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory
--
=================================

[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

In news:***@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl,
Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP] <***@mvps.org> posted their thoughts, then I
offered mine

Post by Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP]
I know you're not a Microsoft employee, I'm an MVP too, remember? ;-)

Yes, sorry. Got caught up in this mess and finally Ray made me realize he
didn't post it and well, you know the rest.

Sorry for the confusion.
--
Regards,
Ace

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Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory

[Ray at <%=sLocation%>]

Damn you Ace. (Just kidding man!)

Ray at home

"Ace Fekay [MVP]"

Post by Ace Fekay [MVP]
Yes, sorry. Got caught up in this mess and finally Ray made me realize he
didn't post it and well, you know the rest.
Sorry for the confusion.

[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

In news:***@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl,
Ray at <%=sLocation%> <%=sLocation%> posted their thoughts, then I offered
mine

Post by Ray at <%=sLocation%>
Damn you Ace. (Just kidding man!)
Ray at home

LOL
--
Regards,
Ace

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Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory

[Ray at <%=sLocation%>]

Thanks for explaining that for me while I was not around.

I'll take your suggestion under advisement. :] Sometimes it's hard to just
stay out of it when someone is attacking MS and the newsgroup participants
who may not know better.

Ray at work
I LOVE MICROSOFT!

Post by Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP]
Ace,
Ray explained why he posts in the past with the same subjects as spam
messages. It's to put them on the bottom, he means no harm by it, but I
personally don't like it because it involves scrolling all the way down to
the bottom to look at the latest spam.
Ray - I recommend and plead that you stop doing it. Aside from giving
yourself a bad name, it also bothers people (that is, I'm sure it's not just
me)
--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]

[Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP]]

No problem :o)
--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]
http://www.imbored.biz - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step
tutorial site :-)
Only reply by newsgroup. If I see an email I didn't ask for, it will be
deleted without reading.

Post by Ray at <%=sLocation%>
Thanks for explaining that for me while I was not around.
I'll take your suggestion under advisement. :] Sometimes it's hard to just
stay out of it when someone is attacking MS and the newsgroup participants
who may not know better.
Ray at work
I LOVE MICROSOFT!

Post by Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP]
Ace,
Ray explained why he posts in the past with the same subjects as spam
messages. It's to put them on the bottom, he means no harm by it, but I
personally don't like it because it involves scrolling all the way down to
the bottom to look at the latest spam.
Ray - I recommend and plead that you stop doing it. Aside from giving
yourself a bad name, it also bothers people (that is, I'm sure it's not

just

Post by Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP]
me)
--
--Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server]

[Jonathan de Boyne Pollard]

JM> Ray explained why he posts in the past with the same subjects
JM> as spam messages. It's to put them on the bottom, [...]

Which begs the obvious question: "On the bottom of _what_?". At which point
we discover that he thinks that everyone else's news readers order messages in
the same way that his does. (Everyone else doesn't even _receive_ messages in
the same order that he does, let alone view them in the same order in their
NUAs. Usenet operates by flood fill; and NUAs, even when viewing by thread,
have a variety of subtle ordering variations.)

[Ray at <%=sLocation%>]

No, that is not what Ray thinks. It actually puts mine on the top of my
list, because I know that I sort my messages in a non-majority way. The
point of bottom-posting a message is to "hide" the message from the majority
of users until Microsoft notices it and deletes the message. It's a way of
helping out a percentage of the users, since the majority of users of these
newsgroups use Outlook Express, and OE will put the message at the bottom of
the list. And the bottom is not necessarily at the bottom. The bottom in
whichever way you order it.

I'm well aware of the fact that people view things in different ways. And I
am well aware that bumping a message will only hide it from some people, not
all. But if I can save one person from executing a virus on his machine, it
is worth dealing with this nonsense to which I am replying.

Ray at work

Post by Jonathan de Boyne Pollard
JM> Ray explained why he posts in the past with the same subjects
JM> as spam messages. It's to put them on the bottom, [...]
Which begs the obvious question: "On the bottom of _what_?". At which point
we discover that he thinks that everyone else's news readers order messages in
the same way that his does. (Everyone else doesn't even _receive_ messages in
the same order that he does, let alone view them in the same order in their
NUAs. Usenet operates by flood fill; and NUAs, even when viewing by thread,
have a variety of subtle ordering variations.)

[Ray at <%=sLocation%>]

Hi Ace,

I 100% agree. Please note that I am not the starter of the subject line. I
was merely bumping the malicious message to the bottom of the list.

Ray at work

"Ace Fekay [MVP]"

Post by Ace Fekay [MVP]
Ray at <%=sLocation%> <%=sLocation%> posted their thoughts, then I offered
mine

The message below this contains a virus. Do not open the attachment.
See here for more details.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/policy/swdist.asp
Ray at home

Depicting Microsoft with the dollar sign ($) is DEROGATORY, for the company
and the employees that work there. These guys are trying to help you out
when you post in these groups, but to turn around and deface the name in
this matter is just throwing it back in their faces.
After all, I bet your job or career AND basically your livelyhood has
something to do with Microsoft products.
--
Regards,
Ace
Please direct all replies to the newsgroup so all can benefit.
Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory
--
=================================

[Ace Fekay [MVP]]

Gotchya. I assumed and jumped on that insignia. Sorry about that.

Keep up the good work on keeping the junk out of here!

Ace

Post by Ray at <%=sLocation%>
Hi Ace,
I 100% agree. Please note that I am not the starter of the subject line.

I

Post by Ray at <%=sLocation%>
was merely bumping the malicious message to the bottom of the list.
Ray at work
"Ace Fekay [MVP]"

Post by Ace Fekay [MVP]
Ray at <%=sLocation%> <%=sLocation%> posted their thoughts, then I offered
mine

The message below this contains a virus. Do not open the attachment.
See here for more details.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/policy/swdist.asp
Ray at home

Depicting Microsoft with the dollar sign ($) is DEROGATORY, for the

company

Post by Ace Fekay [MVP]
and the employees that work there. These guys are trying to help you out
when you post in these groups, but to turn around and deface the name in
this matter is just throwing it back in their faces.
After all, I bet your job or career AND basically your livelyhood has
something to do with Microsoft products.
--
Regards,
Ace
Please direct all replies to the newsgroup so all can benefit.
Ace Fekay, MCSE 2000, MCSE+I, MCSA, MCT, MVP
Microsoft Windows MVP - Active Directory
--
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